(27.01.2021)Ayu schrieb:  45 der 50 Republikaner stimmten gegen den Antrag für das Impeachment, wird also wohl nichts.

(27.01.2021)Firebird schrieb:  Damit haben sich die Republikaner wohl endgültig davon verabschiedet, eine Trump-freie Datei zu werden. Das wäre die Gelegenheit gewesen, sich von Trump zu distanzieren, aber nein , sie stellen sich lieber weiter hinter diesen Rassisten und Umstürzler.

(27.01.2021)Basinator schrieb:  

(27.01.2021)Ayu schrieb:  45 der 50 Republikaner stimmten gegen den Antrag für das Impeachment, wird also wohl nichts.

Korrekturen:
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Ich meine, dass es genau genommen auch gar nicht gegen die Verurteilung selbst ging bei der 45 von 50, sondern um irgendeinen Antrag dazu.

(27.01.2021)Ayu schrieb:  Die Ausrede "wieso" sie dagegen stimmen ist sowieso zu köstlich:
Es sei zu spät weil Trump nun eine Privat Person sei und somit sei ein Impeachment nicht mehr relevant, als ob sie nicht daran schuld wären dass es erst jetzt umsetzbar ist aber wo sie es permanent bei Obama versucht hatten war es ok.

(27.01.2021)Basinator schrieb:  Was meintest du mit Obama? Hast du da eine Quelle für ein ernsthaftes Verfahren? (Und nicht nur Aussagen von Einzelnen GOPs)

Zitat:Only five of 50 Republican senators voted in favor of "tabling" — essentially killing — Paul's motion. They were Ben Sasse of Nebraska, Susan Collins of Maine, Mitt Romney of Utah, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania.

Zitat:Democrats maintain that they have precedent on their side. While no president has been tried by the Senate after having left office, Secretary of War William Belknap was tried in the Senate in 1876 after he had already resigned.

Zitat:In an interview Tuesday morning with Hugh Hewitt, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, straddled the differences of opinion, saying: "I actually think the question of whether an ex-president can be impeached is a close question. I think there are strong and serious constitutional arguments on both sides of the question."

But, Cruz added, "I think this impeachment is a mistake."

"I think it is petty and vindictive on the Democrats' part, and I think they're engaged in political retribution," he said. "And so I'm going to vote against conviction."

Zitat:The Democratic-controlled House approved the article of impeachment Jan. 13 in a 232-197 vote; 10 Republicans sided against Trump, the most bipartisan vote on a presidential impeachment in history, doubling the five Democrats who voted to impeach Clinton.

Zitat:No president has ever been impeached after leaving office, but there is one legal precedent that may be important.

In 1876, Secretary of War William Belknap was investigated by the House for corruption. Just minutes before the House was set to vote on his impeachment, he raced to the White House and handed his resignation to President Ulysses Grant.

The House went ahead and impeached him anyway, and the Senate proceeded to have a trial. A majority voted to convict, but not the two-thirds required, so he was acquitted. The scholars in the second camp point to this example to bolster their argument that even after leaving office, a president could be convicted and barred from holding future federal office.

(27.01.2021)Ayu schrieb:  

(27.01.2021)Basinator schrieb:  Was meintest du mit Obama? Hast du da eine Quelle für ein ernsthaftes Verfahren? (Und nicht nur Aussagen von Einzelnen GOPs)

Gab so viele Versuche, dass es einen extrem langen Wiki-Eintrag aller Impeachmentversuche durch die Republikaner gegen Obama gibt.  

Zitat:The Affordable Care Act

In 2013, Senator Ted Cruz responded to the question "Why Don’t We Impeach [Obama]?" with "Good question... and I’ll tell you the simplest answer: To successfully impeach a president you need the votes in the U.S. Senate." That year, when asked if Obama had committed impeachable offenses on immigration and health care, Cruz said the implementation of the Affordable Care Act was "lawless", and said of impeachment, "That’s a question for the House ultimately... My responsibility would be to render judgment."[21][22][23]

Zitat:Birtherism
At a 2013 town hall meeting with constituents, two years after Obama had released his long-form birth certificate to the public, Congressman Blake Farenthold said that Obama should be impeached due to birther conspiracy theories about Obama.

Zitat:Transgender bathroom directive

Zitat:According to a July 2014 YouGov poll, 35% of Americans believed President Obama should be impeached, including 68% of Republicans.[35] Later that month, a CNN survey found that about two thirds of adult Americans disagreed with impeachment efforts. The data showed intense partisan divides, with 57% of Republicans supporting the efforts compared to only 35% of independents and 13% of Democrats.[6]

Zitat:Andrew McCarthy of the National Review wrote the book Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case For Obama's Impeachment, which argued that threatening impeachment was a good way to limit executive action by Obama (McCarthy referred to Obama's actions as "the standard dictatorial self-image").[21][39]

Zitat:„Wer auf Erden des Teufels General wurde und ihm die Bahn gebombt hat – der muß ihm auch Quartier in der Hölle machen.“

(29.01.2021)Firebird schrieb:  Ehrlich? Energielaser zur Wetterkontrolle? Das ist doch hirnrissig und noch dazu mit der "jüdischen Weltorrdnung" verbunden, Stichwort "Rothschild".

(29.01.2021)BlackT0rnado schrieb:  Ist das nicht verwerflich das so viel Nazikult in den USA herrscht? Man müsste eigentlich davon ausgehen das sowas hier sehr verankert sein muss, in Deutschland und nicht in einem Land der 2WK-Siegermächte. Paradox.

Zitat:Under the leadership of Donald Trump, the GOP had lost the House, Senate and White House

Zitat:In Oregon, the state’s GOP leadership issued a statement claiming that the sacking of the Capitol had been a staged “false flag” event. The Arizona GOP censured that state’s Republican governor for refusing to overturn the election results.